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Dr. Boyce: Roland Martin, GLAAD and How Weve Learned to Become Oppressors

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Roland Martin of CNN and TV One fame was thrust into the middle of boiling hot sauce after the Super Bowl for some remarks he made on Twitter.   Finding himself offended by an ad featuring a nearly nude David Beckham, Martin decided to make a “lil jokey-joke” out of the situation:“If a dude at your Super Bowl party is hyped about David Beckham’s H&M underwear ad, smack the ish out of him!” said Martin.

 

 

Being the professional that he is, Martin fired back at every Twitter missile sent his way, arguing that his remark was more of a joke about soccer fans than something having to do with the nearly naked man on the screen. The move might have worked, had it not been for the diligence of GLAAD and other activists who seemed to feel that they had Martin cornered.

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  1. I read the rest of the article and funny how Dr. Boyce calls out Martin Roland for being a homophobe but then turns around and says “Like any other HEALTHY MAN, God injected me with an appreciation for hips, lips, curves and all things that make women physically appealing”. Is Dr. Boyce implying that only men who like women are “healthy”? And is he also implying that only hips, lips and curves of women are what makes them appealing?? What a hypocrite! What about women who are Christians, good mothers, strong, independant, kind, nurturing and college educated and hard working? Aren’t they “beautiful” or “appealing” too? And yet, Dr. Boyce calls out Roland Martin for being a homophobe! What nerve! Gay men should not only be offended by Dr. Boyce’s hypocritical remarks but as a woman, I find Dr. Boyce’s remarks also very offensive.

  2. What is this Gay rights stuff? They want the right to be an abomination? Leave Roland Martin alone he didn’t say anything against Gay people they’re just being over-sensitive which I guess is to be expected.

    • Spencer

      We do not need stupid moronic people posting idiotic rhetoric of a prejudice nature. You are not God and you are not sinless. If you think you are going to heaven JUST because you are not gay, you are a bigger fool than most of your friends and loved ones think you are.

      And I thank you

  3. Peppa, Spencer had a right to say what he said just like you had a right to say what you said. However, just state your opinion of the article and not address a certain person. Now, the Bible does talk about man lying with man and woman lying with woman and abomination. Spencer was stating fact and not trying to be God. I have family members and friends who live that lifestyle. Even though I don’t agree with it, they know that I still love them and the people they are in a relationship with. I didn’t see the problem of what he said at all. GLAAD thinks that their stuff don’t stink! Every time someone homosexual has a bad experience somewhere or with someone, they scream bloody murder and everybody gets to running and that’s crazy to me! If, excuse me, when something happens to black people and we call attention to it, then we’re being overly sensitive and when someone half heartedly apologizes, we’re supposed to take it and go sit down. Oh please! We need to stop being such passive doormats! We don’t fight for anything anymore! We have gotten so comfortable with our “success” working at masas “corporate plantation” that we don’t want to “rock the boat”. Can I get my butt kicking, fighting for rights, people back please so that we can go forward!

    • Denise,

      You “Obviously” did not read Spencer’s stupid idiotic and moronic post, so I will post it for you again.

      “What is this Gay rights stuff? They want the right to be an abomination? Leave Roland Martin alone he didn’t say anything against Gay people they’re just being over-sensitive which I guess is to be expected”.

      Now, I don’t care what you or anyone else feels is in the bible, YOU sin every single day of your life, so do I and so does Spencer. Yet, no one goes around calling you an abomination. God sees all sins equally. If you lie or if you kill someone, in God’s eyes those two sins are equal. Why don’t you and people like you denounce infedelity. Isn’t that a sin against God, when you pledge to be true to your mate at marriage, but go chasing the first tramp who shows you her thighs. Most people who HATE gay people feel that they will go to heaven JUST because they are straight. And I am sorry, but that is BAT ASS KRAZY. These individuals had no decision in being gay. it is how they were born. I am sorry if your brain refuses to believe that. but I know they do. Why would anyone want to be judge by people like you and Spencer. If they had a choice to be straight, I am more than certain they would choose to be straight. Just like I a sure loads and loads of people would choose to be White, if they had a choice. So don’t come at me telling me who not to address and how not to address them, because I know Gay people who commit suicide because of people like Spencer. He is a grown So-called STRAIGHT man. I am sure he does not need you protecting him.

      And I Thank You!

      • Peppa, going forward, I will not address what Spencer said other than to say I did read what he said, as I read what you said. I did not say that all sins DO NOT weigh the same. I did not call those who live that lifestyle an abomination. It is the ACT itself that is the abomination. For it is written: Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination and Leviticus 20:13
        If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. The God I serve is the creator of all things and IS LOVE. Therefore, in love I will express this to you, God’s word will not return unto him void (Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.) If you say they were born like that or with those desires, then you’re saying the creator made a mistake in making them with the parts that reveal they should be with someone who has different parts than they do. One thing we are created to do is PRO-CREATE. You CANNOT PRO-CREATE with someone who has the same parts as you. Case in point, the Creator created ALL THINGS (Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.); (Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good). You will NEVER see two of any same gender of creature (two lions, two male pinguins, two male fish, etc) together sexually/intimately. Noah had two of every living creature, one male and one female, in the Ark because God was going to replenish the earth (Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female); (Genesis 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.) Therefore, when we sin, God does not like it, meaning the sin, but He loves us. Always remember this, the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is ETERNAL life. No one is perfect on this Earth and NEVER will be. Be blessed and do not harden your heart.

        • My heart is not hardened, as is evident with my love for all humans Gay people included, hence me not calling them an abomination (AS DID SPENCER) and I am not talking about what YOU CALLED THEM, the initial comment was based on what that MORON called them. And I appreciate you copying and pasting all the scriptures, but like I said before, most black people PRETEND to believe that ALL SIN is created equal, but HARP SO HEAVILY on what they perceived to be sinful with homosexuality more than any other sin. That is casting a people aside, when once again ALL SIN IS EQUAL. Why do you all not go so hard when it comes to infidelity, statutory rape. How come there is not this GREAT CRUSADE OF BLACK MEN against grown men who sleep with 15 and 16 year old. At least gay men and women are consensual adults. This is what kills me about the Black community, my community. Most of us, pick and choose which sin we want to go after the hardest. And it is usually the thing that people feel they had no decision in. So you are going to tell someone that they decided to be gay. When they knew from their pre-teen years that they were attracted to the same sex. I am not saying that God made a mistake at all. And you are also quoting scriptures from the old testament. Are you still going to say that if a person steals something, their hand shou8ld be chopped off. There are tons and tons and tons of scriptures that state what should happen if something is committed. I could go on and on and on with what the old testament states. But this country does not live by those books. If we did, that would mean that every single human being on the face of this earth is going straight to hell.

          Be Blessed.

          • As do I love ALL people. We are all individuals who make individual decisions. I cannot speak for ALL or even MOST black people and neither can you. You can only speak on what you’ve experienced through those you’ve been associated with. I am not ‘YOU ALL’, I am Denise and a follower of Jesus Christ. God’s word is the truth and that’s what I speak. You don’t know what I’m involved in so you cannot say I’m not doing anything. EVERYONE on Earth sins on a daily basis, including myself. However, it’s what you do to get back in right standing with the Lord that sets you apart. He is a forgiving and LOVING God. He would not cast anyone aside. However, He hates when we do wrong no matter what it is. That’s why when you do wrong there are consequences. When you speak, you are speaking of people who are fleshly beings. In this life that we live everything is a process. To answer your question, I am saying that people who live that lifestyle decide to do that, no matter when it started. If you are placed in your mother’s womb with the genitalia of a man, then that’s what you live your life as. Every battle that is fought starts in the mind first. Every act that we commit starts in the mind, meaning we think or have some thought about it before we act upon it. Yes, I was quoting the Old Testament and I know we are living under the New Testament which is under the blood of Jesus Christ. That’s why when we do something contrary to His word, we can ask for forgiveness and be forgiven because of the blood He shed for us. This country doesn’t do anything it’s supposed to do. People are always saying, “God Bless America” when America is not blessing God, or shall I say they are blessing god but not the right one, who is God the creator. I don’t wish hell on anybody. Living through the ugly things here on Earth is enough. I’m apologetic for any negative act someone has done to you. I pray the Master’s peace upon your life. Thank you for this healthy dialogue. 🙂

        • Thank you Denise you said it right. No one is born gay, basically your saying that God made a mistake when he created them . He doesn’t make mistakes.

          • Malinda,

            Stop pretending to be God. You do not know if they were born gay or not, because you did not create them. I am going by the source i.e. gay people. And I would believe a gay person who tells me that he or she was born gay, before I’d listen to a straight mortal who says they are not.

            And I Thank you!

        • fantastic comments Denise! Very well-stated.

      • Wow, preach Peppa! So well said!

      • in reply to why would a gay person choose to be gay if they could be straight.
        one word perverse – defined as ; stubbornly determined not to do what is expected.
        pervert – 1. to corrupt 2. to turn to an improper use. 3. to distort 4. a perverted person.
        there is perversion in every sin accountable to mankind – perversion is turning from truth and believing a lie. there you have it, every gay person, thief, murderer, child molester, liar,adultery etc… all have fallen victim to deception, which is the perversion{ improper, distorted version} of truth.
        there is only one truth and his name is Jesus Christ, the Messiah.
        gay men and women children, commit suicide because they are confused, concerning their identity, their physical bodies tell them one thing, but they believe the distortion { lie } planted in their mind causing gender confusion, or identity confusion – which is a trick of satan. God is not a God of confusion.
        to compound the confusion, there are gay activist screaming ” they are born that way” the battle between the mind and body offers little to no hope. no way out, either the person suppress what they are told is natural feelings, or they engage in homosexual acts and are labeled derogatory names, and all the ridicule that comes along with that. so often the person succumbs to thoughts of i’d rather die than fight this battle.
        without the hope of Jesus Christ and restoration many, many are lost.
        the only way to dispel a lie is with the truth.

        • Thanks for your OPINION Marcia,
          And while you are brushing up on why Honosexuals do what they do which will prevent them from the Kingdom, make sure you take care of YOUR SOUL.
          And merely being with a man is not THE THING YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, to get into the kingdom.

          AND I THANK YOU!

  4. Dr. Boyce, as usual I concur with all that you have stated. I never will understand how African Americans who are routinely discriminated against, demonized, terrorized, murdered, etc., because of the color of our skin, then turn around & demonstrate / advocate the same hatred, violence, fear, & contempt towards another group of people. Its baffling to me how we can justify the bashing & hatred of a group of people that have done us no harm; especially as we ourselves continue to be treated in the same bad / horrendous manner. Then we routinely refer to ourselves as Christians while using the bible to justify our hatreds in the same way that this book was used by others to justify slavery of African Americans. Its really quite sickening to see us, who continue to this day to have to fight for our rights as citizens in this country, vehemently deny the same rights to others! You cannot scream racism at every turn, then in the next breath declare that others aren’t entitled to have the same rights as you do. Live & let live is my motto! Who a person chooses to like or love is not my concern & should not be the concern of others!

    • DaTruth,

      You are obviously a person who loves the Lord and all his creatures. A few of the less like you could learn a thing or two from you.

      Be Blessed.

  5. If you do not believe in God or His word, please feel free to skip over this post. Let me start out by saying that I do not agree with being cruel to anyone in any circumstance. God does not hate anyone, but he does hate the sin. With that said, I am saddened by the fact that people cannot express their religious views against the practice of homosexuality without being made out to be the bad guy. We are to obey God rather than man. Sometimes God’s laws do not match up with man’s laws (i.e. lying, adultery, divorce and other sins). Some say that people are born gay. For the sake of argument, let’s go with that. There are children born everyday who are addicted to crack because of their mother’s habit. When they grow up, do they have the okay from God to smoke crack because they were born like that? I hear people say…”who would CHOOSE to be gay”? Well, you could say that about anything. I think most would agree that the most looked-down-upon people are child molesters. Nobody likes them, yet they still choose to carry on with their practices. I guess my main thought in all of this is, don’t try and force people to go against their religious beliefs to accept a practice just because YOU think it’s okay.

    • Well said.

    • @Mr or Mrs Anonymous, nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. My point is that MOST religious people PICK and CHOOSE which sin to go against the hardest. What part of my posts do you not get. And it is usually the sin that they HATE the most. I am sick and tired of people who CLAIM to be religious, allowing all these atrocious sins that ACTUALLY HURT PEOPLE go by without going so hard against them. A lot of people who CLAIM to be religious go to church every Sunday and open a condom on Monday. How come we don’t hear people denouncing child molesters (as you pointed out) the way they do homosexuality. At least with homosexuality, if you believe it is a sin, it is not hurting someone not involved. But with child molestation, rape, infidelity, murder, all those things hurt people. Where are the marches against incest. And you state that even if they are born that way, they should still not live that way. So they are supposed to just try to pray away the feelings they were born with (however long that may take) while you all live however you want to live. They are supposed to suffer and not be happy because you all feel that God will send them to hell. Well I tell you what, how about you all worry about your daily sins, that will surely send you to hell and let the gays worry about theirs.

  6. When you can respond to all the other things in the old testement, like you posted Leviticus regarding homosexuality, come see me. Until then, you are yet another Christian sister, who chooses what to harp on in the bible, and what to ignore.

    Be Blessed sister girl.

    • Like what? You are more than welcome to give me examples. The Word is what it’s all about. I’m just a vessel to be used by the Master. I don’t ignore anything unless it’s trivial enough to be ignored or unless my Daddy says it’s not worth talking about. I love you! 🙂

  7. I’m sick and tired of gays piggy-backing on the struggles that Blacks have endured in this country and abroad. Sick.of.it. Roland was not bashing gays, yet gays are so quick to call for someone’s firing. Absurd. Gays are trying to legitimize their life choices and force their lifestyle down everyone’s throats. And the censorship, lol, good luck with that gays. I for one will not support gay rights. And I want the whiny gays to stop putting the ONUS on Blacks as if we’re the only group that is against this lifestyle. Check out Latinos, muslims, Asians. I will not be guilted or shamed by a group that has not, nor ever experienced a fraction of what Blacks CONTINUE TO FACE, even the BLACK PRESIDENT HIMSELF. I don’t care if you don’t like what I have written. This ridiculous, overly dramatic response is par for the course of gays trying to shame Blacks into supporting their cause. I don’t and never will. I am a believer of Yeshua HaMashaich, and I know exactly what the word of Yah says about abominations. It is what it is. I follow the word of Yah over following the world.

    • And another thing, we are not oppressors, we have the right to OPPOSE what goes against OUR BELIEFS. I am so sick of this garbage. Blacks are not kindred to Gays,

      When will the Gay community denounce their own RACIST BEHAVIOR? What about Shirley Liquor performed by WHITE GAY DRAG QUEEN IN BLACKFACE? I’ll wait. In the meantime, I will not bend, not one iota to the bully tactics of the gay mafia, and if the gay community thinks most Blacks like me will bend to their will, they can think again.

      • ilovenaturalhair

        Stop being so arrogant. Nobody cares if you denounce them or not. You are not God, you mean nothing to those people. If you denounce them, fine, but do not thin they are not going to fight back. Worry about your family and loved ones, and stop putting your nose in the business of people you do not even know. If they are not bothering you, why is it so important to you.

        Sheesh.

        • Peppa, I can and will post about anything I please in a free country. Obviously you care since you are foaming at the mouth about defending gays. And you do not dictate jack to me about what I should care about and what I take issue with. As long as racist gays are trying to take this fight to me as a black person in America, I oppose gays bully tactics and censorship. Don’t like it, too bad. Ignore my post and keep it moving. In the meantime, I oppose intolerant people like you who act as if you’re opinion is the only one that matters. So take your own advice before giving unsolicited advice to others, hypocrite. I never implied I was God, fool, yet I follow his entire word. Racist gays will never get my support. Cowards like them seem to play manipulative games with Blacks in America because we have a stronger political voice, racist gays are usurping Civil Rights to push their agenda, no, FORCE their lifestyle onto others.

          Again, where are the gays on issues like blackface Shirley Liquor? Racist gays love spouting off at the mouth at how intolerant most Blacks are, essentially attacking our religion and beliefs, while conveniently ignoring their own racist views, especially Black gays, lol. To bad gays are weak on going after other groups who are oppose the gay lifestyle too such as Hispanic, Latino, jews, muslims. So no,Peppa, get this straight,I will fight and oppose hypocritical gays to my hearts content loudly and proudly.

          • @ILovenaturalhair,

            Look at this frustrated person stooping to juvenile levels by name calling. But since you want to go there, I will lower my standards for the entirety of my post. your man was Obviously taken from you by a gay man, judging by your EXTREME hatred of the gay community. (SAVE THE LIES, BECAUSE IT IS APPARENT. I don’t know maybe your man didn’t like nappy hair) And excuse me, but you cannot be racist, unless you are holding a group from back from something. What are the gays holding you back from. Oh, I forgot, they are infiltrating on the men you seek. Well, sorry to tell you Natural Hair All Mighty, but if your man was taken by another man, he was gay all the time,. And was probably hiding it, because of mean evil spirited people like you who can’t seem to mind your business.

            You need to stop mentioning God, because you do not seem to have him in your life. It is people like you who chase people away from religion. Every time I read a post by someone talking about religion but seem to be so hateful, I no longer wonder why so many people are confused about what to believe. You act no different from people who don’t know God. I would never take you as a Chrstian or anyone of any faith. You sound bitter and jaded. How old are you by the way. Just because you know the word does not mean God wants you to deliver his word in satan’s tongue.

            I’m done with you so don’t bother addressing me. But I am sure you will, because just like you cannot mind your business and are always in the lives of gay people I am sure you won’t be able to resist responded back to a person who has no interest in your babble any further.

            But I will leave you with this Ole Natural locks

            The best business in any line of business is to have some business. but if you have no business then make it your business to leave other people’s business alone.

            And I thank you!

          • Again, more projection, deflection, and conjecture. Your hysterical posy is as entertaining add your feeble attempt of making a strong argument. Such a laughable fool you are. Reaching and failing still. You are the one foaming at the mouth, hypocrite..Thought you were done? More failure of reading comprehension by you. Keep up with your own post regarding being done and moving on. As I wrote, Buh bye. In the meantime, racist gays are hypocrites and cowards, and their boot licking minions, such as yourself, are itching for a fight you’ll never win with the Black Community. Bully tactics, censorship, transparent guilt trip are racist gays m.o.

            Continue in your fall. Racist gays are playing the wrong two-faced game with Blacks by using Blacks for their agenda when they see fit, trying to colonize a Black man like Roland Martin and the Black Community, then having the nerve to say were the same. Just contradiction and hypocrisy that is part for the course with gays.

            Roland Martin said nothing wrong and I agree with his initial response. Again, attacking my faith makes you a sad fool. God is my rock and salvation. I believe in HIS WORD FROM BEGINNING TO END. I will sing his praises til Yeshua Himself calls me home. You are someone who doesn’t understand the word of God, and basking in your own ignorant intolerance, under the guise of being open minded. You are a silly fool playing a game way over your a skill set. I live in a free country, not Sharia Law. Don’t like what I post, take your own advice fool and ignore me. Lol @ your sloppy responses.

            Again, racist gays loves cannot blackface humor, but they whine about intolerance? Hysterical.

          • LMAO@you Ilovenaturalhair.
            I was in a little meeting, so I am just now responding to your little rant Sista Soulja lol.
            You are hysterical. swear I can almost see the veins popping from your neck. I wish I could find the gay guy who took your man from you, I would slap him silly. And for the record, I only said I was done ONCE, put on your glasses dear. This is quite entertaining to me. Here you all panties in a tight bunch over someone and their wish to be with whom they want to be with. Stop pretending you care about gays and their salvation. You are only mad at them, because you see them as competition. You can claim you are of God all you want, but your actions scream loud quite the opposite. Denise on the other hand is definitely a woman of God. She does not allow a blog debate with a person she does not even know bring the evil into her world. But something tells me this is how you are with everyone. You call them racist like it means something to them, but you do it with such venom. You are not fooling anyone. You are just another one of those bitter jaded sisters who hates gay men, because you were not woman enough to find a real heterosexual man, and wound up with a gay man who eventually left you, probably because of your big mouth and hateful words. Here you are wasting your breath like your words are going to change those people. You are such a funny little lady.

          • ^^”Your hysterical post as entertaining as your feeble attempt of making a strong argument.

            Demonize not colonize.”

            You can attack my faith to your hearts content to cover your intolerance of my beliefs to support your pro gay stance all you like, it only makes you look like the hypocritical fool those reading your posts know you to be. Blubbering about tolerance when you don’t know the meaning word.

          • @ilovenaturalhair,

            Do not try to blame me for your weak faith. I am not attacking anything, you are showing your true colors that you are a fake religious person. No true religious person I have ever met acts like a childish immature brat, who has not gotten their way. I have not professed to be this die hard religious person. i just follow the 10 commandments and try to do to others as I would have them do to me. YOU on the other hand try to make believe that you have this great faith in God, which you do not seem to have AT ALL.

            And do not put anyone else in your mess. They are not involved with this debate. Now, you are asking for assistance from other posters. LOL LOL LOL. I tell you, fake religious people are so transparent. And it is so easy to pull the devil out of people like you. You have been seen for the fake religious person that you are, now scram before someone drops a house on you too.

          • Thought you were done, fool. You can’t even stock to your own post. Been done means you.are.done. Another silly post by you filled conjecture, ad hominem, and illogical reasoning. You couldn’t make a strong argument to save your life. You contradict yourself with every post. Racist gays are hypocrites and so are people like you you who support them. Just more hysterical ranting from a double minded fool. When they gay community deals with it’s own racism and intolerance, then perhaps their plea for the overused tolerance will have merit. And I call them racist because they’re racists, fool. And two faced racist gays trying to bully Blacks is more fail since gays need to draw some kind of faint, non existent correlation between Civil Rights and gay rights. One thing is not like the other.

            And yes, my faith and beliefs are what I stand on always and not ashamed of them because greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. People who believe in Yeshua HaMashaich know that.

            When have racist gays addressed their own racism against Blacks? When have white gays addressed the high rates of HIV/AIDS in the Black Community white begging for increased funding for AIDS research and charities? When will gays apologize for criticizing Black Community for Prop 8’s initial defeat? When will gays address Shirley Liquor?

            I will not hold my breath one minute yo wait for those questions to be answered because gay victimhood and deflection is the game you want to play, and failing bad at it.

          • Ilovenatural hair….Stop using this blog as therapy for what ails you. You are too EXTREME. And anything in an EXTREME form is dangerous. You and your dogmatic views helps no one.

            Now I am really through with you. Not because this isn’t entertaining me, but because I fear that I may be instrumental in making you attack a gay person when you see them on your way home from work.

            SEEK HELP SISTER.

          • Once again fool, thought you were done? More insipid nonsense from a hysterical font with no argument or valid response. Racist gays have fooled you with empty words of tolerance since they have none for others as apparent with the gay mafia’s overreaction to Roland Martin,. And no I didn’t think you’d respond to my previous questions because you are full of superficial rhetoric.

          • Moron, nobody is going to follow you and all your thousand posts on here, I have no idea what question you are talking about. You’re starting to sound deranged. Stop stalking me and get lost.

          • More hysterics and paranoia. You posted to me first, FOOL. Now you’ve failed in making a solid argument, you are trying and failing to save face. You can’t even stock to the topic of the thread without dissolving into hysterics. You are a sad fool. You kept saying were done with me cyber bully, now be done fool. Btw sad clown you posted to me first while harassing other poster a who are against your racist gays.

    • @ilovenaturalhair

      You sound bitter and ridiculous.

      And also very hateful. At least I know Denise is a true woman of God.

      I am done with you.

      • Take a good look in the mirror and read your posts in this thread, hypocrite before projecting your own intolerance fool. You don’t know a thing about me, so keep your conjecture and weak assumptions in your back pocket. You tore Denise down and she showed you grace. Such a happy fool full of phony indignation. Yes, please quit while your ahead and continue to stick your head in the sand regarding racist gays and their two-faced agenda against Blacks. No, I don’t think you wanted to go there with me regarding racist gays. Buh bye fool.

        • ilovenaturalhair,
          U are the bomb! I am rolling right now!

          • I thank you kindly, Denise. 🙂 . I’ve enjoyed you’re posts as well. You showed tremendous grace and intelligence throughout your exchanges with Peppa. Well done.

  8. To God be the Glory, woman of God! May His grace be with and keep you!

    • Amen!!!!!:-)
      We truly must be diligent always.

      • Already! Let’s talk again sometime. I would love to have you on my ministry team!

        • That would be great, Denise. Let’s make it happen 🙂

    • Yes Denise, I agree with her that you showed your God through and through with our exchange. Maybe you will rub off on her.

      But I doubt that even your faith can help her.

      There is NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING like a woman scorned.

      • I love you too Peppa! You better give me a air hug right now! 🙂

        • Air hug coming your way….Squeeze Squeeze Squeeze sista girl. Much love to you. And please excuse my rather aggressive nature. I tend to get a bit protective of people who I honestly think, are some of the nicest people in this country.

          May god contnue to occupy your heart.

          • Duely noted and same to you! He promises that it will be greata lata! 🙂

    • Just for the record, the bible does speak clearly about homosexuality in the new testament in Romans 1:18-32 and abominations are different from sins. Although no sin is good nor am I justifying, but only for homosexuality does God turn you reprobate and only for homosexuality did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah as well as the surrounding cities. Only for homosexuality do you receive a punishment where you can no longer choose right (reprobate). Not my words, but the words of our Lord, read on and be blessed.
      Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
      Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
      Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,  being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
      Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful;  but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 
      Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 
      Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
      Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
      Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,  who is blessed for ever. Amen.
      Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
      Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 
      Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 
      Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
      Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
      Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
      Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

      • Amen!!!!!

        • Also,
          This is my very last post on this subject. I am going to un-check the boxes that alert me when a post is posted cause I am quite frankly tired of you people and your thirsty desire to HATE a person because he is gay. Seek help and you better wake up and count your sins against your good deeds.

          I’d just like to add that it is painfully obvious that iluvnaturalhair is the person under these other screen names posting. Your writing is similar and it is so odd that you always seem to respond to posts that agree with you. You’re not fooling anyone. You are consumed by gay people, it is tearing your soul to pieces. There are too many issues in the world and I’m sure your own life for you to be so focused on people you do not even care for, in fact people who by your posts you seem to loathe despise and hate. I will be praying for you as I have since you first slithered onto this thread.
          So sad.

          • Denise, you are still acting like a fool, a hysterical fool. Anyone reading your posts can read for themselves. Do yourself a favor and log off for good. I do not need to troll under other names to post my views. You are a silly, immature child that needs to stay off the ‘net. Take your own advice and seek therapy, extensively. You can’t keep my name off your keyboard, lol. Stay pressed.

          • Sis, I don’t think that one was meant for me. You may have been targeting Peppa. 🙂

          • Thank you, Denise. I apologize profusely for the mistake:-) . Yes, my post was definitely for the pressed one, Peppa.

      • LMAO@ you ridiculous explanation of scriptures to aid your HATE for people who are gay. First of all Sodom and Gomorra was not destroyed because of homosexuality, it was destroyed because it was a city that was extremely sinful. Shame on you for spreading falsehoods about scripture. So you expect people to think that God feels that if you are gay you will be turned into a reprobated soul, but if you murdered thousands of people you can repent. LOL.

        Like I said with Christians like you, we do not need demons.

        • I am not the poster “Ilovenaturalhair,” we just both agree on the Word of God. Also, I did not say anything about hating anyone. I could not counsel anyone I hated, in fact, I don’t waste the life the Lord gave me hating anyone. Disagreeing with how a person lives, does not equate to hate from my perspective.  With that said, your supposition that Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for homosexuality is not accurate. The scriptures are very clear (New Testament).  “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,” (1 Corinthians 6:9)

          Your stand on homosexuality does not preclude me from loving or respecting you as a person, the abominable fact of homosexuality is what I do not love or approve.  I also do not approve of fornication, adultery, lying, drunkenness, or any other type of sin and I do not just single out homosexuals.  However, it is homosexuals who draw attention to themselves.  When a person is committing adultery or murder, you do not hear them advertising about it and telling everyone, “look at me I’m an adulterer or I am a murderer”. Again, reprobate is only attached to those who won’t recognize their wrong doing and change their ways..I did not make it up, take it up with the Lord.   I don’t personally like the fact that I can’t have sex outside of marriage (fornication), but I follow the word of God and I won’t have sex until I am married…I want the Lord’s perfect will even if it doesn’t always feel good. 

          The Word of God is clear about homosexuality so it is impossible for anyone to be born this way. The Lord is the creator of life and he would not create something he would condemn as abominable. He doesn’t create murders, liars, drunkards, or child molesters. I have never seen a gay baby, a murderous baby (coming out of the womb with a gun) and I have never seen a baby born racist. We are all born with the propensity for sin, but we are not born committing the sin, sin is learned.

          Why is it people can’t just agree to disagree and still get along? I don’t have to agree with you to love and respect you. I’ve had friends who were committing adultery and I told them in love they were wrong, but I did not stop being their friend and showing them love.  In fact,one she is still my BEST FRIEND after 30 years. I’m still praying for her. I counsel people from all walks of life and no matter what they have done, I tell them the Lord loves them and so do I. 

          Peppa sweetheart, I love you too, we just don’t agree and that is okay. Nonetheless, I must take the Lord at His Word, the literal and spiritual revelation of His Word.  I’ve included scriptures from Genesis about why Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because I always let the word speak for itself.  

          Gen:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
          Gen 19:2 And he said,  Behold now, my lords, turn in,  I pray you, into your servant’s house, and tarry all night,  and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early,  and go on your ways. And they said,  Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 
          Gen 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 
          Gen 19:4 But before they lay down,  the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round,  both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
          Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
          Gen 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
          Gen 19:7 And said,  I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 
          Gen 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
          Gen 19:9 And they said,  Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn,  and he will needs be a judge:  now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

          • AMEN!!! I don’t know why gay advocates keep mistranslating the literal word of Yah. Thank you for posting both the Torah of the old testament and new testament to clear up such blatant misunderstanding on Yah’s clear stand against homosexuality, and sin. Still, those who claim to have eyes can’t see what’s written right in front of them.

            “I want the Lord’s perfect will even if it doesn’t always feel good”. This is the absolute truth! Regarding Roland Martin, I’ve found the gay mafia are attacking, and tend to attack the spiritual faiths and belief systems of those who don’t agree with their lifestyle while demanding tolerance, understanding, and equality. It’s madness. This issue highlights that homosexuality is not compatible with the word of Yah. Never have and never will be.

          • @JCL

            I appreciate your taking time to post these scriptures and while I respect your belief and your undying task to remain righteous I still disagree with you regarding people and whether or not they are born gay. Why would anyone feel this attraction to the same sex at a very early age and it had been learned. If it were learned, why is it so hard for them to change, or un do the learned behavior.

            Scriptures are interpreted in many different ways, I am sure you know this. I just do not see how a person can come into this world, and learn to be gay. Some people say that is a curse. So why would guy choose to curse certain people and not others. My cousin is gay, she was gay as early as we can remember. We always noticed how she would not want to play with dolls but wanted to go to my house to play with my brothers who were her age. Her mom and dad hated that. Always tried taking her to girly things, and insisted that she did not play with the little boys outside, but she was not happy unless she was around the little boys. As for your comment about babies not born gay, how do you know. I must admit, that your calmness and leads me to believe, I was wrong in thinking that you MIGHT have a dual screen name. I also am glad that you do not focus on just HOMOSEXUALITY, like so many other SO-CALLED Christians. It is almost like they have a crusade against gays, but other sins, they seem to say, let the Lord deal with it, lol. I know you have to agree with me on this one.

            Most people who disagree with the gay lifestyle, hate gay people, they have no care nor concern for them, they look down on them like freaks, like they are not of God….YET THEY ARE SO CONCERNED WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING. If you KNOW you do not care about someone, why constantly talk about them. I thought to be of God, meant that you were a caring person. Most of these SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS act like demons. The way they show this COMPLETE AND UTTER LOATHING for these people, who REALLY BELIEVE they were born that way. They try to justify their hate, by saying that gay people want them to support their lifestyle. No they don’t, they want you to leave them alone and worry about yourselves. People kill me searching for excuses to be evil. If you care for someone’s soul, you will not show it with lies and evil means. Stop saying they are trying to shove their lifestyle down your throats. They just want to be able to live as they feel and not have people telling them they are going to hell. If people feel gay people are going to hell, there is nothing wrong with what you feel, but keep it to yourselves and stop FORCING YOUR BELIEFS on them. Let God take care of it. Preach love not hate. Most people preach against homosexuality, then go to the bar later that night picking up prostitutes. It is so draining to me and these people are fooling themselves if they think God is happy with their actions.
            How are you going to make a person who from their knowledge did nothing to be that way. No harm was done to them, they were not brought up around other gay people, they did not see anything tragic, but they all of a sudden feel the need to be with the same sex. So you see these individuals feel normal and natural, but here you have these mean spirited people disguised as Christians, telling them that they are going to hell. No one tries to understand how they feel. Do you see heterosexuals killing themselves, because people are telling them that they are going to hell for committing adultery. “NO”, because people do not HARP on it. They allow these individuals to commit adultery year after year, without bothering them, MERELY BECAUSE they are straight. I’ll be willing to bet there are so-called Christians reading my post right now and the devil is fueling their hatred of this post. As I write this, I actually feel the future HATRED of this post, from a few while they read it. How can you be of God and have so much hate in your heart.
            I believe that you and Denise are not those type of people. And I respect your convictions. But what is going t be done about these people who are perpetrating a LOVE for humanity in the name of God, when it causes these young kids to feel so isolated and alone, that some of them feel it is not worth living. They do not know how to turn straight. People are so cruel and so mean because of THEIR BELIEFS. They would rather these kids kill themselves rather than to be happy living their lives the best way they know how.

            THAT IS WHY I AM SO COMPASSIONATE ABOUT IT. Because I know what they go through. We all can read scripture and have faith in what we believe in, but NONE OF US, TRULY knows what God has in store for us. I have never been a reader of the bible, but I ‘ll be willing to bet, I have less sins than those who know it backwards and forwards.

            Be Blessed.

          • I stand in agreement JCL. Peppa, you know I told you I love you and you can take that to the bank. However, the Word is the Word and it does not return empty. God is not a man who will lie. It is written that God IS Love. We as humans do not have the capacity to love as God loves without Him. We are just saying what thus sayeth the Lord. We do not hate anyone.

          • If you read my very first comment n this story, you will see that I felt GLAAD overreacted to Roland. And I do not feel you hate people who are gay. But if you are a Christian, then you should also check SO-CALLED Christians, the way you’d check who you consider to be a sinner. WHy would you feel comfortable with a SO-CALLED Christian spewing the word of God, through intolerance and hate.

          • We understand that Peppa, but a lot of us do hold other Christians accountable for their actions. However, just like we don’t think you are like other hateful people, you can’t think we are like other Christians either. We all sin on a daily basis, however, it’s because we go to God humbly and ask for forgiveness of those sins that keeps us in right-standing with Him. Those of us who are Christians used to be something else and somewhere else and in something else before the Lord found us or we went running to Him. We are saved by the GRACE of God!

          • Hi Peppa. I pray your day was blessed. I read your comments an i do understand people’s frustration with the “organized church” and religion. I, personally, don’t practice religion and WE are the church, amen. My stance on why people are not born gay is predicated on scripture and my many years of counseling as well as discussions with my counseling colleagues. While counseling homosexuals, I have only encountered 1 who believed they were born this way. However, after several sessions, the real reason for the homosexuality was revealed and it had nothing to do with being born this way. This person had a very abusive father and when the father would beat him, he ran to his mother for comfort. He was such a loving and gentle child (my heart ached for him) that he could not imagine growing up to be mean like his father. He did not have any positive male role-models in his life, so he modeled after the loving women in his life (mommy, grandma, aunts and sisters). His father’s idea of manhood was men are to be tough, strong, not showing any emotion. So this young man wanted to be the opposite of that. He also wanted the love and acceptance of a man in his life and the first man to show him love was a gay man at an early age. Now this man was struggling because he knew, his words, not mine, that this lifestyle was not right. After counseling and much prayer, he is now beautifully saved and married to a woman and they have children.

            Other gay men have admitted to me that they were not born this way, but preferred this type of sex and it was not easy getting it from women, especially African-American women who are taught that anal and sometimes oral sex is taboo, it is considered sodomy (check out the dictionary definition of sodomy). In addition, other gays have shared that it was learned, or it was forced on them through child molestation. Others have come to realize it is a spirit that entered their lives from rebellious and sinful behavior as well as through rape and through lust (this is usually the most recognized reason). You see lust is never satisfied, sooner or later 1 woman or man is not enough–that is when cheating starts. Then several men or women are not enough, threesomes are not enough; now they want to try all types of sex with the same and/or opposite sex.

            An older gentlemen who was struggling with being gay said these feelings started when he was about 4 because he was molested and it felt good, hedid not know any better. Gays do rape children, look at the catholic church and it is more rampant in our society than most know. Young males do not want anyone to know what has happened to them. I pray for the Lord to restore to them their manhood or womanhood when the victims are females. Many young girls who are raped grow up to resent men or become promiscuous–more willing to try sex with people of the same sex, and again, they prefer this type of sex (feels better), not that they were born this way. Also, with women who turn gay, it is because they were hurt by sooooooooo many men. It feels good to them to have another loving, nurturing woman who understands. However, they are still strugglingc with it being wrong, not necessarily from society, butmtheymare struggling from within. I call it the enemy “in a me” syndrome.

            I know you may not agree, but keep an open mind. I did, that is why I don’t have a problem counseling gays. I don’t try to convince them they are not, but try to help them get to the root cause for their struggling with it. As a Minister, I must tell them what the word of God says about their lifestyle, just as I do with the adulterers, formicators and addicts that I counsel. Actually, now that I think of it, I point out fornication, drug abuse, spousal abuse and adultery more than anything else. Anyway, when anyone requests counseling, I let them know from the door that I counsel based on the Word of God and if they cannot handle this, then I am not the right person to help, but I will always pray for them.

            I appreciate your passion for wanting to help others, you are to be commended. I see that passion with some of the other posters and it is so refreshing to see the passion on both ends of the spectrum, but at the heart of the posts is the posters desire to help. I see Ms. Natural hair is passionate about helping others come to the true knowledge of the Lord’s Word and Ms. Denise wants to set everybody free, I just love all of you! I thank you all for entertaining my 2 cents.

          • @JCL
            Those are the most compassionate and loving words I’ve heard in a long time. Very well said, true and informative. I have a cousin who was married for 17 years to an emotionally and physically abusive man. After she was divorced, she began a relationship with another women. Before this relationship, and even in between, she was rejected by lots of men. So I know what you’re talking about. I have a couple of other family members who turned to that lifestyle after bad relationships with men but the stories are similar and I don’t have a lot of time. When you strip away all of the underlying reasons, you will get to an unholy spirit. Thank you for your comments. I will never forget them.

          • Extremely poignant post JCL. I recognize quite a few examples in your post. Thank you.

          • JCL,

            My God has blessed you with the one of the best gifts IMO and that is A LOVING HEART. You can love even SO-CALLED Christians and see the good in them. I wished all Christians were like you and Denise. Maybe….Just Maybe people who are sinners would be more apt to allow God’s blessing to flow so that they could be saved. But I fear that the majority of So-Called Christians mix the word up, with what may personally have happened to them or a loved one and they don’t realize that while they are preaching God’s word, they don’t have God in their heart. I don’t care how much teaching or studying or going to church one does, if they show no difference in behavior or temperament than a sinner, THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE PREACHING TO ANYONE. I wish I had your patience and understanding of certain people who seem more like a mean spirited hating person who knows the word, rather than a compassionate loving individual, who loves everyone and only wants them to go to Heaven. So I say to you and Denise, keep doing what you are doing, I have actually learned a lot from not necessarily the words you two posted, but the undying love that seem to ooze from the two of you. If you are from and of God, it should not be THAT EASY TO GET YOU SO UPSET TO THE POINT THAT YOU DON’T EVEN SEEM TO BE A CHILD OF GOD.

          • My sister, ilovenaturalhair, you are POWERFUL! I know your heart and you are not a hater. Your strength can overwhelm, but it is needed because you are on the battlefield against the enemy and his tactics, so you must be FIERCE. Yeshua was meek, but not weak, and meek just means strength under control. He had the ability to do some damage, but he chose to let love conquer. You have a great capacity for love and you have greatness in you, that is why you are a fireball :)! I feel led to share with you a phrase that helped me greatly, “Don’t let the fire go out, just regulate the thermostat”. Our young black females need to hear your voice and see someone like you who has conquered the furnace of affliction. I feel so led to pour into you right now because you are often unappreciated and misunderstood, but you are loved by God no matter what the enemy tries to tell you and no matter the mistakes made–you are precious. You are also resilient and like a good ole Timex, “you can take a lickin and keep on tickin”. I’m praying for you because a transformation (from glory to glory and from faith to faith) is coming for you, amen.

          • I concur and greatly worded. When the Lord finalizes my next assignment, Sis. ilovenaturalhair I will be looking for you to be a part of God’s minstry team! He’s birthing some stuff in us!

          • Hi Peppa, thank you for the lovely words. I send many blessings and love your way. I know how you feel about religious people, they are a hot mess and give real believers a bad name. I preached on this once and I thought they were going to stone me. I told the church folk that if you sleep in a garage everday for 30 years, you will never become a car, no more than just going to church for 30 years will make you a Christian. I also said, some of them were going to hell with their dues paid up! Boy, did I make some people mad. (Sometimes they dont invite me back.) However, I explained that church attendance can be good , but we must be the church, not just visit one. We must love like the Lord loves. He inhabits us, He wants to dwell in us, He wants to live daily in us. That is why Jesus died, to cleanse us from sin for whoever wants to accept His atoning sacrifice. If He can do what He did for us, the least we can do is LOVE HIM and one another. No matter who they are, no matter what color. I must admit that I am a little prejudice when it comes to people of a certain color. I really have a preference for those little blue people…Papa Smurf, Brainy Smurf, Smurfette, and my favorite, Bashful Smurf–he has the cutest dimples. 🙂 You keep on loving with that big heart of yours, and watch how things change for others and you too.

          • Hi Peppa, thank you for the lovely words. I send many blessings and love your way. I know how you feel about religious people, they are a hot mess and give real believers a bad name. I preached on this once and I thought they were going to stone me. I told the church folk that if you sleep in a garage everday for 30 years, you will never become a car, no more than just going to church for 30 years will make you a Christian. I also said, some of them were going to hell with their dues paid up! Boy, did I make some people mad. (Sometimes they dont invite me back.) However, I explained that church attendance can be good , but we must be the church, not just visit one. We must love like the Lord loves. He inhabits us, He wants to dwell in us, He wants to live daily in us. That is why Jesus died, to cleanse us from sin for whoever wants to accept His atoning sacrifice. If He can do what He did for us, the least we can do is LOVE HIM and one another. No matter who they are, no matter what color. I must admit that I am a little prejudice when it comes to people of a certain color. I really have a preference for those little blue people…Papa Smurf, Brainy Smurf, Smurfette, and my favorite, Bashful Smurf–he has the cutest dimples. 🙂 You keep on loving with that big heart of yours, and watch how things change for others and you too

            HOW BLESSED ARE THOSE AROUND YOU.
            Thank you so much an may continue God Bless You.
            I believe he is so pleased with you.

  9. This kind of stuff gets my blood boiling ( Opressor WTF) How we blacks who were hunged ,inslaved,denied opportunities now become the oppressors lol if any thing we are the opressors of ourselves.

    • THANK YOU!!!! This ridiculous hyperbolic statement made my blood boil as well. It’s something a white gay person would say guilt trip Blacks into feeling some kind of shame for not supporting their lifestyle. I almost unsubscribed from this newsletter after reading the article. On it’s face it’s insulting and Dr. Boyce had no business even attempting to go there with us.

      smh @ Blacks becoming oppressors. Not even Roland Martin is “an oppressor”. just overly sensitive garbage.

  10. JCL, your post blessed me tremendously. I’ve taken your words to heart. Thank you sincerely. Among the numerous correct statements in your post, Yah does know my heart and I’m blessed that both you and Denise have the wisdom, maturity, but more importantly the Holy Spirit within you both to recognize me as a humble servant of the LORD, and your sister in faith just as I recognize the both of you as humble servants of Yah.

    Denise, I’d be happy to help in amy way I can with your ministry. Please let me know. Thank you. I’ll continue to keep Roland in my prayers as well because he is facing tremendous obstacles regarding this situation with his tweets and position at CNN. A someone from another forum correctly pointed out that the gay mafia did not demand TVONE to fire Martin from the network, and to me that speaks volumes of their agenda. Additionally, there is an op-ed written by a gay black man regarding how bias GLAAD is towards African Americans. I’ll be back to post the article.

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